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Is New Zealand right to ban military style guns?

by ThomasCovenant in

jw
friends

in response to the recent terrorist attack in new zealand their government is proposing to ban semi automatic and military style weaponry.. do you agree with this idea?.

would they be better off allowing more of these weapons instead?.

would it be better to perhaps allow more of the muslim community for example, to be armed with semi automatic guns to protect themselves at their places of worship?.

I believe in overlapping

Again, all the millions of psychopaths, mentally-ill people, Muslims and racists who live peaceful lives within the law can rightly feel angry with your comments.

So if the shooter in NZ didn't fall into any of the groups I mentioned because ALL OF THEM live peaceful lives-then according to you he must of just been a law abiding citizen with a clear head and no political and ideological ideas coercing him to do the shooting. He just felt like shooting and killing people because that's what normal people do.

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Is New Zealand right to ban military style guns?

by ThomasCovenant in

jw
friends

in response to the recent terrorist attack in new zealand their government is proposing to ban semi automatic and military style weaponry.. do you agree with this idea?.

would they be better off allowing more of these weapons instead?.

would it be better to perhaps allow more of the muslim community for example, to be armed with semi automatic guns to protect themselves at their places of worship?.

I believe in overlapping

@LoveUniHateExams

Ok, so here are the groups of people that I mentioned.

There are about 4 billion people who are religious and among these there are a high number of fanatics who will misinterpret their belief to harm others. (Religious fanatics who misinterprets their beliefs)

One in four people in the world will be affected by mental or neurological disorders at some point in their lives. There are 7.5 billion people on the planet and that means that about 2 billion people can lose it at any time and go on a shooting spree, suicide bombing or some other mass killing spree. (People who have some type of mental disorder)

There are about 30 million Psychopaths in the world.

(a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior.)

Then there are those that lose it because they’ve lost their job, wife, girlfriend, were bullied, or whatever life throws their way and they decide to go on a killing spree.

(Average person who loses it for some reason or another)

So you said “similar to TC's comment, you're laying the blame at the feet of the wrong people.”

You also said; “@TC - the problem with your line of thinking is that you're blaming the weapons (tools) rather than the people who chose to use them.”

So if I blamed the wrong people and TC blamed the weapons, and we are both wrong, people and weapons is not the cause --What’s left? Enlighten me, whose to blame????

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Is New Zealand right to ban military style guns?

by ThomasCovenant in

jw
friends

in response to the recent terrorist attack in new zealand their government is proposing to ban semi automatic and military style weaponry.. do you agree with this idea?.

would they be better off allowing more of these weapons instead?.

would it be better to perhaps allow more of the muslim community for example, to be armed with semi automatic guns to protect themselves at their places of worship?.

I believe in overlapping

LoveUniHateExams
@TC - the problem with your line of thinking is that you're blaming the weapons (tools) rather than the people who chose to use them.

Who are the people that chose to use weapons and hurt others?

Here is a brief review of the reality of the world we live in. And no political enforcement is going to change that reality.

One in four people in the world will be affected by mental or neurological disorders at some point in their lives. There are 7.5 billion people on the planet and that means that about 2 billion people can lose it at any time and go on a shooting spree, suicide bombing or some other mass killing spree.

https://www.who.int/whr/2001/media_centre/press_release/en/

There are about 30 million Psychopaths in the world.

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/psychopathy-2470590-Nov2015/

There are about 4 billion people who are religious and among these there are a high number of fanatics who will misinterpret their belief to harm others.

Then there are those that lose it because they’ve lost their job, wife, girlfriend, were bullied, or whatever life throws their way and they decide to go on a killing spree.

If by some chance one just happens to be in a church, a school, a shopping mall, and there is a person who loses it, and illegally gets a gun and targets you and your family, will you feel safer if you can legally have a gun to defend yourself and your family or will you feel better and more at peace if the government makes it illegal for you to carry a gun to defend yourself and your only alternative is to hope and pray to someone in the spirit realm, to make the evil go away.

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Is New Zealand right to ban military style guns?

by ThomasCovenant in

jw
friends

in response to the recent terrorist attack in new zealand their government is proposing to ban semi automatic and military style weaponry.. do you agree with this idea?.

would they be better off allowing more of these weapons instead?.

would it be better to perhaps allow more of the muslim community for example, to be armed with semi automatic guns to protect themselves at their places of worship?.

I believe in overlapping

Now, suppose someone opens fire on a crowd, and one person in that crowd happens to have a gun. The attacker now gets shot, and that is the end. The original attacker had enough ammunition to kill a few hundred innocent people, but only managed one injury (or even a property damage shot) before being shot. Maybe a few incidents like that would make anyone stupid enough to shoot at a crowd think twice.

That right there!!

I live in a USA State where Open carry as well as conceal carry is legal. I went to church with some of my uncles who have never been JWs, and are all ex-military. They are law abiding citizens, who put family first and believe in making the world a better place. In the church, more than half of the men open carry their guns. The wives carry their guns in their purse.

What do you think would happened if some terrorist like the one in New Zealand walked into the church and started shooting??

Do you know what it feels like when you are sitting next to your uncle who loves you and is carrying a glock 17 and your aunt who is carrying a compact glock in her purse. Both of who are into competitive shooting. And all the neighbors who know each other very well and and get along with each other and are also carrying!

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Not JW related, but should the electoral college be abolished?

by Billzfan23 in

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elizabeth warren, alexandria ocasio cortez, and other democrats are openly expressing interest (and in come cases, campaign promises) that the electoral college has to go.

i disagree for a few reasons.

first, the 25 states (out of 50, so 50%) with the smallest populations only get 21% of the electoral college votes (in our current system, today).

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The Electoral college protects us from mob mentality majority rule. The founding fathers saw this could easily happen if say the populations of the nation shifted to some extreme religious majority. For example; say an influx of extreme religious advocates for killing apostates and non-believers immigrated into a country like the USA with open borders. Then it would be an easy thing for the majority to manipulate the voting and install a president that would enforce the religious extremist's views on politics and religious belief.

This is what the electoral was design to prevent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTZ0BYoXFyE

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Need Help - How do I refute this???

by HappyBlessedFree in

so i was talking with my husband about all the things the organization is doing ie.

hiding pedophiles, lying about what 1914 was etc.

so his response was that the nation of israel had times when they weren’t doing the right thing, but it was still gods chosen organization.. another topic we were talking about was disfellowshipping.

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But according to the bible God destroyed the nation of Israel and all its Kings because they were doing bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLXOzQQ2ePM

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Will You Stop Listening To Michael Jackson’s Music?

by minimus in

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since the hbo documentary, more people are condemning mj.

will these child abuse allegations affect you if you ever liked his music?.

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I think a better question is; will you continue to listen to some of his particular songs like;

Pretty Young Thing

Give in to me

I just can’t stop loving you

Love never felt so Good

http://www.20min.ch/diashow/25249/galmjkids4-35516ae0ef949400c7e9864212e7f47b.jpg

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Paradise Earth

by Jeff1 in

just recently i was looking at a topic on jwfacts entitled 'paradise on earth forever.

' from the research paul did on this topic he mentioned that there is no biblical evidence of an earthly resurrection.

i haven't heard this before but wanted to get some thoughts on this topic.

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The truth is, no one knows what will happen to all the dead ones. Some say there is an afterlife and some say no afterlife, but the fact remains, no one who has an opinion has ever died and come back to tell the story with workable evidence and proof. Yes there is a story that a man named Jesus died and came back, but that was some 2000 years ago, and if you want to believe that or not, no harm done.Believe what gets your through this life.

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These days it not really that hard being a witness.

by I believe in overlapping in

if you are a true believer, then you are toast.

because you will be a slave to everything the watchtower, circuit overseers, elders, pioneers, imply.

believe me, there are not many true believers anymore, and the majority of them are old.

I believe in overlapping

Troll alert.

I'm not a troll sir82, look at my posts, I haven't been here long but you are upset because I called you on your bullshit.

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These days it not really that hard being a witness.

by I believe in overlapping in

if you are a true believer, then you are toast.

because you will be a slave to everything the watchtower, circuit overseers, elders, pioneers, imply.

believe me, there are not many true believers anymore, and the majority of them are old.

I believe in overlapping

sir82

Unless you are:
-- A child being sexually molested by an elder / relative

Child sexual abuse (CSA) is a universal problem not just a Watchtower problem.

The WHO in 2002 estimated that 73 million boys and 150 million girls under the age of 18 years had experienced various forms of sexual violence.

If I'm correct, there are only 8 million jws world wide and I doubt all of them are being sexually abused.

What place can you recommend sir82 that is a sure thing where a child will not sexually be molested if the child leaves the Watchtower? What Church, what school, what University, what country, what organization. You actually think that leaving the watchtower makes any child safe from being sexually molested?

You need to get informed before making wide generalizations about any group.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4311357/

For the 2% of JWs who are not one of those

Post the reference where it shows without a doubt that it’s 2%

Finkelstein

Wrote;

But if the person who received a BT tells it to another JWS in good standing and that info gets passed to an elder eventually, the elders will investigate.

You seem to be an old dud who doesn’t have his glasses on. Let me make it simple for you so you don’t have to get your glasses.

Here’s what I wrote;

And this is very important; you never invite the blood liaison or tell any of the jw friends. And if they find out, make sure the hospital staff understands that no visitors are allowed.

Let me write it again.

And this is very important; you never invite the blood liaison or tell any of the jw friends. And if they find out, make sure the hospital staff understands that no visitors are allowed.

You remind me of the old jw elder who always approaches me and asks me about why I’m going to college and I explain it to him but he never seems to get it and repeats the same question.